Harvey Whippleman said on Saturday, Dec 25 at 6:19 AM

It's true. A 2nd lawsuit filed in California claiming fraud, pyramid scheme, RICO violations, etc. Seems like a perfect Christmas gift for the FHTM outside legal team - millions in fees for them to defend another major lawsuit.

Brett said on Sunday, Dec 19 at 2:11 PM

Here is what Texas says The Texas Attorney General's office sent Fortune a "civil investigative demand" letter on Aug. 26. The letter asked for the names of all state residents enrolled in Fortune, how much they paid to get in and got in return, along with the gross product sales in the state. The letter also asks the names and earnings of the highest-ranking managers of the company, who is below them on their teams and how much comes from direct product sales as opposed to "commissions, bonuses or sales by others." Jerry Strickland, a spokesman for Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, says the office is reviewing Fortune's response, and the "investigation is ongoing."

MIKE said on Saturday, Dec 11 at 5:57 PM

I find the commments here hilarious by the people who are so confortable working a job and complaining how FHTM stole from them, because its really theyre fault for not working the business, Nobody is going to do it for you! i been doing fhtm for atleast 1 1/2 yr and im glad i got to fire my boss. and im able to help those open minded people that dont complain and actually make the decision of doing something and going to work do the same thing!! I have never ever made so much money in my entire life than i have in the last few months of my fortune business!! THANK YOU FHTM !!! LETS GO KNOCK EM DOWN AND ROCK THIS THING AND GOD BLESS THOSE WINERS AND THUMB SUCKING LOOSERS THAT ONLY COMPLAIN!! LETS GO!!

Natalie said on Tuesday, Aug 17 at 2:03 PM

pyramidschemealeart did an excellent write up on FHTM and the income disclosure statement. The conclusion, no one is making money except a tiny percent sitting at the top, then 99% of those who get involved drop-out. Makes sense why MLM businesses like FHTM are not a sustainable way to make money. Most will spend more on the products offered in order to qualify for bonuses, resulting in a loss.

Pete said on Thursday, Aug 5 at 4:07 PM

I would like to say, I'm happy I got my money back. It was a big waste of time. I just wish I would of done my research before I wasted my time and money.

becky said on Monday, Aug 2 at 7:30 AM

for anyone who wants to make money, fortune is a good company partnered with a bunch of huge companies. it's not a scam, but you can't sit there and expect to get free money. you have to work for it. as for the bbb rating. it does have an F rating. but if you read the rating, you will find that every single complaint has either been resolved or the company made every attempt to resolve. you most likely wouldn't see that in an A rated company. and the company is HUGE so that is not that many complaints. also the montana lawsuit probably added negativity to the report. but amway just got mad b/c fortune reps were flashing their checks...which is illegal...and they sued them. fortune is now doing business in montana. what does that say for the company?

Mary said on Thursday, Jun 10 at 9:06 PM

It doesn't appear that Fhtm will be paying anywhere near the 840,000 the state ordered set aside for refunds. Less than three dozen requests so far.

To Bodine said on Thursday, May 27 at 11:20 AM

I wouldn't give much credit to that story. The guy that is behind it is a former fhtm rep. He vowed a few months ago that he would single handily bring down fhtm. He even admitted on his facebook page that he was calling attorney general's and bbb's across the country and filing complaints. It appears he is now getting into the media with his personal vendetta. What a looser.

Sarah said on Wednesday, May 26 at 7:09 AM

FHTM definitely has an F rating with the BBB. I just checked it out.

Josh said on Wednesday, May 26 at 12:51 AM

FHTM has a BBB rating of B, not F as the first commenter suggested.

Mary said on Friday, May 21 at 3:54 PM

As of this afternoon there have been 23 requests for a refund according to Lindeen's office.

Robert said on Thursday, May 20 at 2:52 PM

I'm doing well with FHTM. I don't know why there is so much hatred towards this company.

James said on Wednesday, May 19 at 4:51 PM

So to those making negative comments: you work at a company that never ever does any kind of training? You never ever have an employee that does things incorrectly while doing his job? You never ever have anyone at any other company ever skew the facts to make a bigger commission? Wow hard to believe every other company out there is perfect! Oh by the way: If FHTM was a scam it would not be allowed to do business anymore. HELLO!

This is good said on Wednesday, May 12 at 12:56 PM

I've been following these comments for a few days now and I couldn't help but notice the same FHTm rep posting under multiple names, making up new stories. It’s easy to spot. Makes you wonder if that is how he operates his business to get new members. LOL Is your business hurting that bad? LOL Judging by the IDS put out by FHTM you must fall into the 94.81% that are barely making any money.

To Anonymous said on Wednesday, May 12 at 10:45 AM

Great points! You seem to be the only sensible person posting Truths. I can see how misleading it is when reps use the ESM figures to try and make failing numbers look better. It is best for people to review the IDS for what it is. FHTM reps shouldn’t try to explain something they don't understand themselves.

Anonymous said on Wednesday, May 12 at 10:34 AM

I think a lot of people would like to earn an extra $150 per month after expenses as 95% of the fhtm reps are averaging. ($175 - $25 for website) Keep in mind this is by putting in just a couple of hours per week. So those comparing this to a minimum wage part time job, it would be the equvilent of making $12.50 an hour working 3 hours a week. Also keep in mind if you devote more time each week you will earn more, and if you work less it will be lower. And as hard as it is to believe, it does take years to build a business. So in three or four years you will be making a very good income with fhtm. It doesn't come overnight and most people who have even a tiny bit of education knows this. You reap what you sow in this world.

to Lol said on Wednesday, May 12 at 10:14 AM

Those who work do very well in network marketing whether it is fhtm, mary kay, primerica insurance, avon, whatever. Those who do not work make very little or nothing. That's just how it is. As seen in the disclosure statement, those who are working are earning sizable incomes. Network marketing is not a get rich quick sit back and the money rolls in type of opportunity. It is a business. Treat it as one and you will succeed. Unfortunately people think they pay their enrollment fee and the money starts showing up in the mailbox. Based on your analysis, That would be around $186 per month for 95% of those in fhtm. This would be a net profit of $161.00 after the ongoing expense of $24.95 for the website each month. Even that small amount would benefit many during these hard times. Even according to your numbers people are benefiting from being involved with fhtm.

LOL said on Wednesday, May 12 at 9:57 AM

I performed an analysis of the 2009 Income Disclosure Statement put out by Fortune and it confirms the abysmal earnings of the majority of distributors – the distributors ranked at Regional Sales Manager and below, who make up 95% of the total sales force in Fortune Hi-Tech, have an average income of $43.62 per week and this certainly represents a LOSS when all the ongoing costs are factored. Certainly people cannot see this as a winning investment program when 95% of those make far-far less than minimum wage and only 5% are reaping the benefits of 95% of those that don’t make hardly any money. Legitimate? Hardly! More like unethical.

Anonymous said on Wednesday, May 12 at 4:33 AM

I would say heading a company where less than half of 1% of the members make any real money and over 94% of the members only average a little over $200.00 a month is not helping people but exploiting people; sorry if the truth is negative. Of course if you love charity so much why don’t you skip giving your money to Paul and give it to the charities yourself. It sounds like money from Montana is going to build clubhouses in Kentucky and Paul’s trips on private airplanes, vacations, cars, houses etc. FHTM had to set aside $840,000.00 to reimburse Montana residents that wanted their money back and felt scammed. Imagine how much money would have to be set aside if other states required the same thing. I’m sure there are many more that would like their money back.

Mary said on Tuesday, May 11 at 9:33 AM

Wow anonymous, you are such a negative thinker. It must be sad to be you. You see the negative side of everything don't you? The way I see it, it shows that the owner of this company is a generous man. He also gave $100,000 to the relief efforts in Haiti, 1.6 million to the University of Kentucky, along with tens of thousands to local churches and ministries. Tax breaks or not, I am happy to see that some of the profits from this company are going towards helping others. Not what one would expect from a scam artist as many on here claim. It is just not a characteristic trait as most scam artists are driven by greed and selfishness.

On a positive note said on Monday, May 10 at 10:15 AM

Bowling Green, Ky., May 8, 2010 – Western Kentucky University held a dedication ceremony on Saturday, May 8, for the new Paul C. Orberson Baseball Clubhouse, a facility named for FHTM Founder and President and former WKU baseball player Paul Orberson. Orberson made the lead gift of $600,000 toward construction of the clubhouse, which opened earlier this year."We are all so excited about our new clubhouse,” said head coach Chris Finwood. “Mr. Orberson's gift really brought this project together, and we want to make sure that it is a facility that he will be proud to have his name on.

Andrea said on Monday, May 3 at 5:48 PM

I have been in fhtm for three months and have not made my investment back yet. I did get a check for $95 so far for the one person I have signed up under me. I can not blame fhtm for my lack if income, because I really haven't worked that hard at it up to this point. Not to mention the state shut me down for a month and a half. I will not ask for a refund because I enjoy meeting new people and now that I am able to promote my business again I can see that I will eventually make a return on my money. I love fhtm!.

Margaret said on Monday, May 3 at 2:14 PM

I joined fhtm over the weekend. I will be trained later this week. Everything I have learned to this point has been amazing. The people nor anything I have seen remotely resemble what most of the people commenting on this story claim it to be.

Joerandall said on Monday, May 3 at 12:37 PM

Biggest scam out there. They want you to target friends and family to join or sign up. What a scam! You can make more money part time flipping hamburgers than what 95% in FHTM make.

Anonymous said on Monday, May 3 at 12:04 AM

That's interesting, I wonder why fhtm had to set aside $840,000.00 to refund money to anyone that wants to quit or had previously been involved with fortune?  I'm sure those people that want their money back felt scammed.  And I wonder why fhtm reps now have to undergo extra training to learn how to present their business, if you can call it that, in a way that doesn't mislead people?  And why was a fhtm ESM fined $5,000.00 and Fortune fined $150,000.00?  But I suppose you can point out that the agreement states that fhtm does not have to admit any wrong doing; however, they sure are having to do a lot and pay alot of money for not doing anything wrong! I'm sure it will be harder to present the Fortune opportunity when you can't lie about how good it is.

Anonymous said on Sunday, May 2 at 10:37 AM

Of course you want people to "drop it." Those that do wrong do not like to be exposed.  I'm sure you all would like to scam in peace and not let anyone else point out your scam.

Chris said on Friday, Apr 30 at 8:13 AM

Big time money waster. At least I can get my money back. :-)

Anonymous said on Friday, Apr 30 at 4:04 AM

And since you all like comparisons think of this.  A kid flipping burgers, working 3 hours a day 5 days a week at min wage (7.25 per hour) would make approximately $5655.00 per year. That is almost double than what the disclosure statement says that the average regional manager makes a year and more the 94.81% of the listed reps on the statement, in fhtm.  Looks like the kid flipping burgers isn't on the Journey of the Broke, what you all call a job, its the fhtm reps. You all are the biggest suckers! And the kid flipping burgers didn't have to pay to get his job and training.  It must hurt to know the kid asking you "do you want fries with that?" probably makes more than you!

To Janice said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 10:54 PM

I think you mean you sell 18 products and services per month.....and you have sold those 18 products and services to return customers no new customers in over a year is that correct....because the products and services have contracts like cell phones, internet and Dish....Great Job Janice looking forward to getting going again May 6th....

to anonymous said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 4:13 PM

You clearly don't understand how to read a financial disclosure statement. Those numbers are actually much better than almost all small business opportunities available. The success rate for most is around 3%. Fhtm has around a 6% chance to reach the higher income levels which means you have double the chance for success for them. The overall chance for anyone starting any type of business and being successful after five years is not much better than 10%. Those are numbers that do not lie. According to the statement, the longer you allow the business to grow the better your chances of success.

Joooooeeean said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 11:31 AM

Haven't sold a product in over a year? Ooops!!!!!!!! Don't let the FTC hear you say that, they may think you are truly operating a pyramid scheme.

Janice said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 10:41 AM

You people need to understand thet Fhtm is the perfect business as you do not have to sell a lot of services or products. Only 15 in your lifetime with the company. You only have to recruit a few people in your downline and you are pretty much done. The law of math takes over from there. I have only recruited 11 people and sold 18 products in my three years with the company. I haven't sold a new product or service in over a year! I am at the Executive level and make slightly over the average according to the disclosure statement. I spend my time helping those in my downline do as I have done. There is little overhead in this business my website runs me $300 a year and the renewal fee is $200. I don't travel outside of my county so there are no expenses of consequences there. Don't listen to those who have no experience in the business world and check the facts for yourself.

Brandon said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 10:05 AM

OMG! THE IDS is a smack in the face for anyone wanting to join FHTM. Almost 95% of the reps make far below $2 an hour when compared to a wage earner. FHTM Managers monthly commission Avg. $93 a month, that is $.58 cents an hour compared to a wage earner. FHTM Regionals monthly commission Avg. $256 a month, that is $1.60 an hour compared to a wage earner. Only a hand full, .07% that sit at the top of the pyramid structure are cashing in off 99.3% of everyone’s effort at the bottom. I am reminded of P.T. Barnum’s observation that there is a new fool born every day.

Anonymous said on Thursday, Apr 29 at 12:13 AM

I don’t know what you FHTM people think a good income is, but according to the income disclosure 54.26% of the reps listed at the Manager Level made on average of $93.00 per month after being in the program for nearly a year. At the Regional Manager level, which was 40.55% of listed reps, the average monthly income was $256.00 with over a year in the program, in total that is a total of 94.81% of the listed reps. The majority of the income is made at the NSM level (0.38%) and the Presidential Ambassador (0.07%) level, making over 1.2 mil a year. This means the people really making money in FHTM are less than 1% of the reps involved! The rest of you are just lining their pockets with money. Keep in mind that that incomes listed above don’t include the cost of joining and being a part of FHTM i.e. paying for training, travel to conferences, and of course all the time you spend recruiting, recruiting and recruiting.

Susan said on Wednesday, Apr 28 at 9:14 AM

I have taken a look and was quite surprised when I looked at the new financial disclousure from fortune. Most people really do make money with this company. This is quite the opposite of what I had expected! Anyone else taken a look at it?

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Apr 28 at 1:49 AM

That’s funny if Joan had really done her homework she would realize what a joke FHTM is. The subtle difference between a real MLM and a pyramid scheme is very hard to understand for most people. Add to that all the distortions and misinformation that Fortune puts out and you have the perfect scam. Whether or not FHTM was fined 150k or close to one million, the point is that there will be changes, and Fortune was fined and has agreed to refund a large amount of money if necessary. And since FHTM can’t be trusted it will have to be closely monitored. And by the way that is the oldest trick in the book. A con man stands in the street scamming people and has one of his friends scream out in the crowd “wow that sounds like a great deal!” because people like to follow the crowd. Hence all the stories of “I’m joining up today!”

Joan said on Sunday, Apr 25 at 9:26 AM

Jay, Even the news story you pasted is misleading. You people who are always posting the negative comments and putting people and companies down based on what the news media and the government are the ones who are brain washed. I'm not in fhtm (yet) but if you do some research and read the actual documents from the state you would see where the headlines are not accurate in this case. Here are just a couple of facts I discovered over the past few days. The headline of this story states that fhtm stole 1.8million from Montana residents when they actually have paid 1.8million in commissions to people in Montana just since 2007. Also, there were only fines of $105,000. I'm going to sign up on Tuesday, so fhtm is about to make some money off of me as well. And while there is no guarantee, I also hope to be one of those who can create some extra income.

Ben from Florida said on Sunday, Apr 25 at 7:32 AM

Jay from Missoula you dork. Do you have any factual information that Fortune had to pay 1,000,000 in fines??? I've read the OFFICIAL news release about what happened. You have not, but yet you speak like you actually know what happened. Fortune has admitted no wrong doing. The Montana has not claimed in the settelement that there was no wrong doing by Fortune. But guess what? Distributors in Montana have to go through a training before they can sell products or do Fortune businesss i9n Montana because some people...like you...say thing they should not. Do yourself a favoeor and actually go and read the OFFICIAL statement regrding the settlement so you can talk from an educated position about actual facts. However, you have proved you do not care about facts.

Martin said on Saturday, Apr 24 at 4:11 PM

Well, now FHTM is able to do business in Montana again. All this hoopla was unnecessary!

Jay from Missoula said on Saturday, Apr 24 at 1:11 PM

by claiming it offered huge income opportunities through partnerships with large companies such as Travelocity, General Electric, and The Home Depot, when such partnerships did not exist.

to Love U Montana said on Saturday, Apr 24 at 12:55 PM

Actually you are wrong. FHTM was not guilty of being a pyramid nor were they fined for doing so. If they were a pyramid, they would have been shut down in Montana permanently. Here is a quote from the settlement. "This agreement is entered without adjudication of any issue law or fact" . In other words, FHTM is not guilty of anything. They settled and agreed to make the necessary changes to satisfy the Auditor's concerns. These changes were nothing more than rewording the way they do business. FHTM is not a pyramid and is operating under the exact same business model as it was before the cease and desist order. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your statement was not based on facts.

Rep in Billings said on Saturday, Apr 24 at 11:23 AM

Wow, people need to learn to comprehend what they are reading. There is no $1million fine! Also very few of the current reps are going to ask for a refund. I have 86 people in my downline, and none are going to seek the refund. Even those who have yet to make a dime on their return because they see the potential return on their investment. I would be surprised if more than a hundred take the state up on that offer. There were only very minor changes. The tools no longer count as customer points, but most of the points come from Dish, True Essentials, cell phones, etc anyway. Fhtm has always kept up with customer records so that is not a big deal either. Now that Montana has given Fhtm the seal of approval, I urge everyone to take a look at this outstanding opportunity.

From FHTM said on Friday, Apr 23 at 8:20 PM

FHTM has operated in the state of Montana since January of 2001. We, as a company, feel a tremendous obligation to our Montana Independent Representatives and strive to maintain a good working relationship with state authorities. Since January 1, 2007, FHTM is proud to have paid over $1.8 million dollars in commissions to Independent Representatives in Montana. We will continue to develop and promote an environment that allows our Representatives an equal opportunity to be successful.

Love U Montana said on Friday, Apr 23 at 6:45 PM

“There were some fines, no surprise there.” LOL … More like a huge fine for pyramiding. FHTM got caught operating a pyramid scheme in Montana and had to “pay nearly $1 million to settle charges that it was operating a pyramid scheme.” And for you FHTM reps, that is not a slanderous accusation that is a fact! LOL

larrty lumbard said on Friday, Apr 23 at 4:50 AM

It blows my mind, after reading many of these comments, about how ignorant and brainwashed 90% of the world is. No wonder Orberson and his band of mercenaries make millions at the expense of millions of people. "Something Goods Gonna Happen" to Paul - not the millions of hard working people he and his team convince that FHTM is their salvage. Network Marketing is awesome way to do business. An endless recruiting scheme is illegal and only lines Paul's pockets (and maybe another 100 or so select few). Wake up America and smell the coffee. FHTM is not suing Montana - but instead is paying almost $1Million for their devious ways. They cannot operate in Montana until they eliminate the $299.00 entrance fee and many other things. So, if you join FHTM elsewhere you dont have toLY IN MONTANA (for now).

So Silly said on Friday, Apr 16 at 6:43 PM

Hey you forgot subliminal messages and hypnotic messages......the ones that make money started in Vegas at the old Sahara.....They have to make a living somehow with the economy slow and vegas not happening like it use to....Almost forgot I could have swore I saw VooDoo Priest their also with chickens.....

Tina said on Friday, Apr 16 at 8:08 AM

You spend 90% of your time recruiting, talking to people. What you are doing is not really product driven, it’s more like recruitment driven.

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Apr 14 at 6:07 AM

Sadly, few people get the big picture about multi-level marketing schemes. For the most part, MLMs are all the same scheme! From old established schemes like Amway to new startups like the Trump Network, these are the same flim flam in different clothing. One MLM may sell vitamins while another sells weight loss herbs. One sells legal services insurance and another fruit juice. But all of them, in reality, sell the exactly the same product: an endless chain income promise. MLMs are all in the “business opportunity” business, not “pills, potions and lotions.” And all of them sell the same “opportunity”, which is the chance to sell the “opportunity” to others who sell the same opportunity, forever and ever.

DDC said on Tuesday, Apr 13 at 1:05 PM

I'm a FHTM rep in SC. I also own a Mortgage Broker shop in SC. as a mortgage broker, I've spent the last three years listening to politicians tell me my profession was taking advantage of people, was the cause of bad things in people's lives, was responsible for the collapse of our national economy. all the while, realizing the politicians doing the talking honestly didn't understand my profession and what we did on the front lines day in and day out.

Joe said on Thursday, Apr 8 at 10:21 AM

To you see: Sorry buddy you are far from correct on that one. I am a rep here in the US. If you will notice I have been patiently waiting for the order to be lifted in Montana before I make anymore comments. It is my understanding that this will occur soon as a settlement has been reached. I did make a statement about the California story being a hoax to keep that from getting out of hand on here as that would have given those who think FHTM is a scam a lot of ammunition for thier argument. You will know when I am posting a comment because I do not need to make several posts under various names to make my point. I have no idea why you have called me out in this way and I have never once bad mouthed Montana nor would I.

To Montana Resident said on Thursday, Apr 8 at 8:27 AM

I not sure what the Auditor smelled but she should get her sinus checked.

To Montana Resident said on Thursday, Apr 8 at 8:21 AM

I don't know what you do for a living but what I do is help others achieve their finacial dreams if you don't believe it that great. I know I am part of the solution not the problem.

Colorado Rep said on Wednesday, Apr 7 at 5:20 PM

Does the State of Montana have a clue how much out of state income FHTM brings to Montana... My upline and all of the people that I pattern myself after are from Montana it seem that Montana is the Bridge to the whole Northwest but the State of Montana has always been backwards...Promote destruction of the earth for a buck but a clean business stop them right there....Boy The State of Montana is DUMB

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Apr 7 at 12:36 PM

Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It’s best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and ***your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products.***

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Apr 6 at 10:01 AM

Joe is correct, the issue in California appears to be a hoax. The mlmattorney website explains. However the issues in Montana are real FHTM is still shut down there for the time being.

FHTM in more trouble said on Monday, Apr 5 at 9:02 PM

While the vast majority of consumers made nothing selling services, Defendants generated 85.5% of their net revenue of over $500 million dollars from the sale of websites and annual fees. Another 10% was generated through the sale to consumers of training and marketing materials. Only 4.5% of Defendants' net revenue was generated from the sale of products and services. In short, Defendants sell an illegal pyramid scheme that uses the minor, incidental sale of products as a front for their scheme. That’s becoming a common theme through the U.S. and possibly Canada, right Joe….no sale on products to someone not in the pay plan.

Anonymous said on Monday, Apr 5 at 8:26 AM

California says FHTM operates an unlawful endless chain scheme (pyramid scheme) Hummmmm!

H.O. said on Sunday, Apr 4 at 6:37 AM

If FHTM is a scam then, all the major cell phone distributors (cell phone stores including Radio Shack) are scams as well. If it is a scam, then why would all major cell companies, GE, Dish Network, and other companies do business with FHTM. Because FHTM is a legal business. People who do not put any effort int operating their business fail which is no different than not working any business you own. Get a life and a brain before you try to destroy a legal company offering opportuniby to own your own business and builde an asset.

Mark said on Friday, Apr 2 at 4:42 PM

I think it is only a hot topic because the same person is discuised as several people to keep the subject alive. Check out this joseph Isaacs. He admited on another blog that he has been filing complaints to attorney generals in all 50 states. This issue is not as big as I thought when I first heard the story last month. Evidently there are a handful of former Fortune people out to destroy it's reputation.

Jill said on Friday, Apr 2 at 2:33 PM

Joseph Isaacs does appear to be a looser just by reading the comments on his facebook page. Some comments he makes support fhtm and then he slams them in others. He also cusses out people who leave comments on his wall. Maybe he is bipolar. He does seem mentally ill based on what I read.

to clearing joe, I mean the air said on Friday, Apr 2 at 2:15 PM

Sounds like a bad deal for that ex-rep. As far as that posting and email goes, Free-Press does not provide a full email address, so no Bill Klein did not mess up on his email. As much as you would want to believe that, sorry it’s not so. Just check out other press-releases on that site.

To clearing the air said on Friday, Apr 2 at 1:40 PM

Call the number provided.

Anonymous said on Friday, Apr 2 at 1:32 PM

In reference to the below article by Bill Klien/Joseph Issacs here is the authors contact info. Notice the email address. Who wants to guess what the three astricks stand for. Could it be JOE?

To Clearing the air said on Friday, Apr 2 at 1:19 PM

April 2, 2010 -- Lexington, Kentucky. This week, FHTM has released several announcements regarding New Representative Bundles and Business Management Services, all pointing to today’s launch. Beginning April 1, 2010, the New Representative Bundles and updates to Business Management Services will be available to newly enrolling Representatives. We hope you take time to read the below information, as well as review the information sent this week so that you may better assist new team members as they sign up for the bundles and services. The timing of this announcement could not have been timed better as it also marks the day that the Kentucky Attorney General began its investigation into the illegal activities of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing. Another dozen states are also looking into the fraudulent activities and business model of FHTM by Bill Klein Author and # is given as well. Doesn't sound like the same person.

Trey said on Friday, Apr 2 at 12:35 PM

Hello....pyramid scheme all the way!

To anonymous said on Friday, Apr 2 at 10:20 AM

All Kentucky state offices are closed today. Sorry, Nice try at stirring the pot.

To Babe said on Thursday, Apr 1 at 8:57 AM

What do you do for a living?

to TO LUKE said on Wednesday, Mar 31 at 12:33 PM

Here is one of the letters that you spoke about from Dish Network. Yes not a Partner but FHTM does gather customers for them. Mr. Ludwig As we discussed in our telephone conversation on February 5, 2010, please be advised that Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing is not a partner of DISH Network L.L.C. However, Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing is a third party independent contractor that is authorized to sell DISH Network services. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, Kimberly L. Berridge

To Luke said on Wednesday, Mar 31 at 6:21 AM

AT&T, Verizon, GE, Dupont and Dish Network, etc… DENY being partnered with FHTM. Read the Cease and desist order and the letters sent back by these companies to the State Auditor as proof. In fact, those exact same companies FHTM markets for, anyone can do as an affiliate and that is basically what FHTM is doing. The only difference is you don’t have to pay $299 to sell to real customers. Also on the cease and desist order, GE thanked the State Auditor about the misrepresentation of their trademark by saying “Thank you for bringing the inappropriate use of the GE trademark to our attention. We will contact FHTM and Protect America to address the issue.”

Luke said on Tuesday, Mar 30 at 11:19 PM

This company has a proven track record and is lead by the best management team. The validity of this company is remarkable being feature in Success Magazine, Your Business At Home, Forbes, yes, FORBES and featured on FOX NEWS. The founder of this company is an amazing individual and is not in business to "scam" anyone. FHTM offers a wide variety of products and services from major corporations. Do you HONESTLY THINK that big name companies like AT&T, Verizon, GE, Dupont and Dish Network are going to work with and illegal pyramid scheme. Come on folks. Look at where your working! "PYRAMID" who is on top of that pyramid, probably not you. Also, don't you think that GE, DISH NETWORK etc. have a few big time attorneys that would check out this company before joining them. Mrs. Norma Miller, go check your facts before stating anything you fool.

Catalyst said on Monday, Mar 29 at 9:17 PM

"A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, often without any product or service being delivered." So who wants to call Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, Dish Network, Best Buy and the like and explain to them that their products and services aren't bring delivered? If you want to work a J.O.B., then shut up and get back to punching a clock. If you want to do MLM with a reputable company, they do exist. Find one and get after it. There's nothing funnier than driving up in a platinum Lexus paid for by the company and hearing people bad mouth it! You may hate it, but results is hard to argue. Some will, some won't... so what?

Shelden said on Saturday, Mar 27 at 11:31 PM

They don't offer discounts, in fact I can find the same stuff FHTM offers cheaper elsewhere. It's a sham.

Anonymous said on Friday, Mar 26 at 7:09 AM

Avoid any plan where the reward for recruiting new distributors is more than it is for selling products to the public. That’s a time tested tip-off to a pyramid scheme.

Anonymous said on Thursday, Mar 25 at 12:31 PM

"From our understanding, you sign up and get discounts from Dish, Home Depot," says Jackie Boyle, a state auditor's office spokesperson. Then you guys don't understand.

great news said on Wednesday, Mar 24 at 11:39 AM

Great news! Just read on another forum that the Cease and Desist order will be permanent! Great job Lindeen! No more Fhtm in Montana! Let this be a message to all the other scammers and pyramids out there that our state will not tolorate these practices. So for all those defending this "illegal pyramid scheme" what say you now?

Love U Montana said on Wednesday, Mar 24 at 8:09 AM

Well from what I can see, most FHTM reps have a biased baseless opinion when an event of this magnitude happens against their business. They will just about make up any excuses by saying election time is coming up, the Government is a fraud, the state is broke and looking for ways to make money, etc… You get the point. Fact of the matter, the investigation has been going on since July 2 of 2009 after multiple complaints which lead up to the cease and desist issued March 2010. Sure, it may be settled like what happened in North Dakota , and if so, Great!, but what is to say another state decides to order a cease and desist. With a track record of reps performing fraudulent activity, I don’t think FHTM could pull through a third one. Lets wait and see what happens and in the meantime for those curious of what FHTM is or why a State Auditor stepped in, read the cease and desist order located on the State Auditors website to get the facts.

Joe said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 10:15 PM

Boy, the comments on here went from a gentle debate to name calling and chaos since I was on here last night. Clear to see that there are still some seriously misinformed individuals on here. I think I will keep my comments to myself until after the C&D order is lifted. And it will be. These are just ways for states to gather a little revenue. They see an out of state company creating a little income and they hold the company hostage until they reach a settlement which always includes a fine. Look at some past cases and you will see for yourself.

Shelia said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 8:39 PM

Ya that person must be really good at selling or the person who pays 300 a month is not very bright... Or it is a total lie

Elvis said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:51 PM

Oh I forgot, I’m a scoffer as you can tell with my mockery of names to those who are not for FHTM.

to Jay said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:45 PM

I glad you brought so much insite to the problem thanks...

Sidney said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:41 PM

I am fortunate being in the eastern part of the state as I am able to continue doing business in neighboring north dakota. It is a bit of a drive, but if the state sees fit to shut me down here at least I will still be able to do business in a state that welcomes fortune. I feel for those of you who don't have the same option. Let's hope a decision is made soon.

Cross Country runner said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:38 PM

Wow thanks for the head up from Auditor....Man recruitment is going very fast..... over the last 4-5 years I am sure glad this Auditor caught it and GREAT TIMING ON THE SAME DAY THAT SHE WAS GOING TO ANOUNCE SHE WAS GOING TO RUN FOR AUDITOR AGAIN!!!!

Post to long said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:32 PM

Wow this post has been going on so long that some of you have to repost what you said earlier...nice Casey and Me from Billings. Man I hope the your neighbor still has a house after paying 300 dollars a month to be part of FHTM what did he sign up multiple times or are you just making that up to sone important.

Mocha in the morning said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:20 PM

Anonymous, I did like you said, ignored the comments here and reviewed the cease and desist order. I can see why it got shut down, my brother was one of those who called in to complain.

Scam buster said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 4:13 PM

You can always tell a scam when you have to recruit people into what is called a downline. MLM LOL!!!!

Fhtm Rep said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 3:31 PM

Can you guys calling Fhtm a scam tell me how I continue get paid when I haven't been able to conduct my business in three weeks now? If I had to go out and sign up more people in order to make money where is the money I received in the mail today coming from? I hope this order is lifted soon so that I can once again start showing this wonderful opportunity to others.

Agree with Good Advice said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 2:50 PM

Not just Obama....Anyone political figure....If politics are your profession you have a license to lie, cheat and steal....

Agree with Good Advice said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 2:34 PM

I don't by lotery tickets but I know one thing I will pay more this year and future years because of this adminstrations bailing out so many corporations that should have just failed. Did Fortune get any bail out money?

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 2:13 PM

Joe, your not helping matters for FHTM! Your language is all the same and easy to spot. That is the type of game FHTM reps like to play on blogs. They know they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and they can’t stand being labeled an alleged pyramid scheme.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 1:58 PM

Check out the video provided by KFBB on this site, then definitely read the cease and desist order, which can be found on the State Auditors website. It's not hard language to understand. Anyone can make heads from tails when reading the order.

Geraldo, said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 1:48 PM

This story looks like another case of media hype. From the headline I expected to read about hundreds of people getting ripped off by some slimeball con artist. Upon further review it's not much of a story at all. One person out of 1300 complains about something and you call this a news story?

to Joe said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 1:35 PM

You are in such denial it's getting old!

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 11:44 AM

Pg 3 of the cease and desist order part 9 says After multiple telephone inquires from Montana consumers about FHTM, on July 2, 2009, the Department initiated an investigation of FHTM and over the course of approximately five months, obtained the following: read the order to find out the rest

Mark in Miles City said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 10:47 AM

So let me get this straight. One person files a complaint against this company because of the actions of a couple of people associated with them and the entire company gets shut down? That doesn't seem fair.

Tina said on Tuesday, Mar 23 at 12:37 AM

I did call the auditor's office soon after I heard this story because I have a relative that has ask me several times to look at this business. I was afraid that she was involved in something illegal so I did a little research and it does look like this company had all thier ducks in a row. Not only did they file the proper paperwork in December 2000, but they did register with the Montana Department of Revenue as well and have kept thier records up to date with the state as required by law. I agree that they sound like a scam, but if they are they seem to be playing by the rules. I'm not going to have anything to do with this company just because it sounds fishy to me.

Joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 9:21 PM

I agree 100% with Love U Montana. Nobody should take the advice of myself or anyone else with comments on this story. Go to the auditor’s website and read the order. Take extra time reading Exhibit A as well as FHTM’s response to the order as this contradicts the auditor’s claim. Also do more research on FHTM by reading their training materials and policy and procedures as this will also show that the company does not condone misleading potential reps by making false claims or income statements. These are grounds for immediate termination of the reps contract with FHTM. There is only one complaint filed against FHTM, and the only one’s who may have violated the law are Graber, Jane, and John Doe. They certainly violated FHTM’s policy. Those are the facts.

joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 6:59 PM

John, the state approved FHTM, give the auditor’s office a call in the morning. There is your source for that. Yes a rep can purchase services from themselves, but there is a limit as to how many to prevent them from purchasing them all. That prevents a rep from breaking the law and was imposed by FHTM themselves. Many reps don’t purchase any products or services from FHTM. Of the 16 customers I have sold only one is my own and that is when I upgraded my cell phone plan. Most of the people getting into FHTM can’t afford to buy additional products and services just to qualify for bonuses. There are no bonuses for signing up new reps! Look at exhibit A in the order.

Joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 5:03 PM

Love U Montana, Nonsense, trolls blogs, faux facts? Can you show me some evidence of this? Please look through all of my comments and find one thing that I have said that is not true. You can't do it. Please to not try to discredit me as it makes you look silly.

Joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 4:07 PM

Love U Montana,I am pasionate about this issue because a most of my family's income comes from my FHTM business. I started my business over a year ago after being laid off. Please take the time and find a copy of the FHTM manual and actually read it from start to finish. FHTM prohibits the practices by those mentioned in the order and there is nothing in the manual that describes the business as these reps have apparently done. Also look at Exhibit A in the cease and desist order which is only a small exerpt from the manual. It contridicts the Auditor's claims that FHTM is a pyramid. A survey of 17 reps out of 1300 does not show the real picture. I know many who are doing very well with FHTM. As far as the cease and desist order there has been only one complaint formally filed against FHTM. If there were others they would have been listed in the order as required by law.

Big Brother said on Monday, Mar 22 at 3:40 PM

The reason this company was shut down is because the government knows what's best for you. So stop trying to argue with it's decision and go out and buy some health insurance before we have to send an IRS agent to your house and arrest you. We're just getting started so shut up and get used to it! The Constitution was written by a bunch of old men over 200 years ago and means nothing in today's society.

Cold Stone said on Monday, Mar 22 at 3:19 PM

Play the MLM Bingo to test yourself if you been duped from the industry.

Joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 2:31 PM

DarrinS, How do you get that no one is making money with FHTM from this order? One of the people the complaint is filed against made over $65,000 through 2008. And a survey of 17 people which doesn't come close to giving an accurate portrayal of everyone in FHTM showed that two actually made money. There is not enough information on how long each of those surveyed have been involved with FHTM so it really is inconclusive. There is no way of knowing if people are loosing or making money based on the order. I can say however that I know many that do.

Joe said on Monday, Mar 22 at 2:20 PM

Darrin S, I make very good money with FHTM and so do many in my downline. The people who are willing to work will do very well. The ones who sign up and expect money to start showing up in the mailbox will be very disappointed. You get out of it exactly what you put in just like any other business.

DarrinS said on Monday, Mar 22 at 2:10 PM

Cease and desist order shows no one is making money in this pyramid scheme. That's a good enough case for anyone to not get involved. Great job Lindeen, you have always done a great job!

Casey said on Monday, Mar 22 at 1:48 PM

Wow Bobby you don't understand how the corporate world works do you. It's all based on a pyramid. This is covered in Business 101. Even our government works this way. After looking at Fortune High Tech for the first time this weekend on the internet I hope the Cease and Desist order is lifted soon because this just makes sense to me and I want in.

Bobby said on Monday, Mar 22 at 12:23 PM

Most people I talked with today said the very few people involved in FHTM make things up in order to make a sale and therefore drink too much of the Jonestown Kool-Aid! This company is not liked in our community. Apparently, everyone was watching the news when this aired several times.

Abbey said on Monday, Mar 22 at 11:31 AM

Scam or not, as they say in the business world even bad publicity is good because it gets your name out there in front of people that otherwise would have never heard of you. It's like free advertising in a way. People are going to make their own decisions about this company, and they will likely benefit from the court order because it put there name out there. Before this was in the news I had never heard of fortune high tech marketing.

Bobby said on Monday, Mar 22 at 10:44 AM

Who is Forutne Hi-Tech? If it's anything like scamway, then I can see why our State Auditor took action. They sound like one of those signs we use see all over town "Earn money while you sleep" or "Fire your Boss." All found to be nothing but a pyramid scheme.

To anonymous said on Monday, Mar 22 at 8:51 AM

This was published in the Lexington Herald Paper last week-“After receiving numerous phone calls from Montana consumers about a Lexington network marketing firm last year, officials there embarked on a five-month investigation and concluded that the company is an illegal pyramid scheme.” Jackie Boyle, a spokeswoman for the Montana auditor's office was quoted "We've been getting a number of calls just in the past week, so that number could potentially grow." That proves there was a lot of complaints and it looks pretty ugly for FHTM.

Anonymous said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 10:29 PM

The only reason this story has been so popular is because there are two or three idiots going around in circles with this thing. As far as being shut down the complaints are not as widespread as the story leads you to believe. Sometimes the government rushes to judgment without a fair assessment as in this case I believe. It's just another case of our taxes being spent to keep people who want to make their own choices from being able to do so. Just look at what our government did tonight in Washington. They pulled off the biggest scam of all! Anything Fhtm could do to harm our citizens would pale in comparison to health care reform. But then what do I know, of course the government knows what is best.

One womans opinion said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 7:01 PM

The FTC statement you quoted doesn’t seem to apply in this case. I would advise everyone claiming that Fhtm is a scam to actually take the time to read the Fhtm manual. We all have our opinions, but facts are facts and after reading the manual for myself I can’t see how the state can not allow this company resume business in our state. They clearly forbid any of the practices exercised by the individuals named in the order and those will be the one’s who should be penalized. I found the manual by googling Fortune Hi Tech Training Manual PDF It was the second listing. They sound pretty legit to me.

Drayton said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 5:30 PM

No one has answered by questions about FHTM shut down. If FHTM is all that, then why did it get in trouble? Why the cease and desist? Why so many phone calls and complaints over the last few months? Why the need to convince people it’s a great money-making venture?

J.C. said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 4:45 PM

I’m from Billings and I’ve seen enough of the FHTM scheme. I makes me sick how good honest people can change to brainwashed individuals. Successful Fortune Rep your comment is comical at best, you said “please keep in mind that NO company stays in business for a decade by being a pyramid scheme." Didn't Bernard Madoff run a Ponzi Scheme for several decades before one person recently exposed what his operation really was. Monica Lindeen could be the whistleblower on FHTM if found to actually be a pyramid scheme. If not it will continue to be criticized by nature of how it operates here in Montana.

Successful Fortune Rep said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 4:18 PM

Also, please keep in mind that NO company stays in business for a decade by being a pyramid scheme. Most of these types of "organizations" are either shut down quickly by the originators once the money has been made, or they are shut down by the law within 4 months to a year. Use your common sense, folks. :)

Successful Fortune Rep said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 4:03 PM

Hey Scam, whoever you are....you'll get very far in life calling people morons. Good luck with your job (if you have one).

Joe said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 11:31 AM

John, I see FHTM as a benefit to my family and myself. I in turn show this opportunity to other people I feel may also benefit from being a part of my team. If someone is not interested or does not fully understand the concept I do not want them on my team. It is hard work and it is not for everyone and I respect that. There evidently are some reps out there who are greedy and seem to be signing up people under false pretense. I personally do not understand why they take this approach as they receive no compensation on signing people up, and if they new reps are not producers they too will fail. Evidently these greedy reps do not understand how fortune operates. I say punish the wrong doing reps not the company as a whole.

Joe said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 10:58 AM

John, Just because a business uses the network marketing model doesn't mean that it is a scam.

Joe said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 10:50 AM

If you can't find it on your own, call the auditor's office tomorrow and they will tell you. In the mean time if you look hard enough you can find it. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

Joe said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 10:11 AM

John, Do a little more homework, you will find that FHTM's business plan was in fact approved by the state back in 2000. You're going to have to do more than just read the C&D order. As for the affiliate marketing, I never said that there wasn't money in it, but one would have to work a lot harder as an individual to go out and sell these products. That's the beauty of network marketing. You are benefiting off the efforts of many. Didn't you read the quote from Rockerfeller? He understood how leverage worked, that's what network marketing is all about. Most of the money does stay in the state. These are Montana citizens just like you. They will spend money shopping, eating out, purchasing goods and services, paying taxes, giving to charity, buying property, etc. right here in the state. Money that wouldn't normally be available in today's economy. As for the education being a scam? I think you may have me confused with someone else as I never made such a comment.

john54 said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 2:50 AM

Oh and by the way Joe I love the comment you made in response to “Love u Montana” when you said the problem with affiliate marketing programs is that “you have to continually sell to make a decent income” Isn’t that what you all are supposed to be doing, selling? You did say that Fortune is sales based? But now you are talking about having 250 people in your down line. Wouldn’t you have to recruit those people or train others to recruit and focus on brining people into the program? And if affiliate marketing is not a big money maker, how are Fortune reps making an income if they are using affiliate marketing? Perhaps it is primarily through the income of introducing others into the program and reaping the bonuses you get from brining them in, separate from actual sales. It’s hard to hide the truth of your program when you really get into the details. Like I said keep posting Fortune reps, especially you Joe, you just keep exposing more and more.

john54 said on Sunday, Mar 21 at 2:41 AM

I see the Fortune reps did exactly what I said, ignored any factual information and presented FHTM propaganda, a few faulty comparisons, and made misleading claims. Joe, the insurance industry is nothing like Fortune. Even if you are an independent agent working off commission, the agent does not recruit people to sell insurance, who then are trained to recruit other people endlessly, and the agent does not make his income primarily off the commissions he receives for recruitment; the agent sells insurance plain and simply. And you can use nice colorful terms for recruitment, you can even use the term in the state statute “obtaining the participation of others”, but it is still recruitment and you get paid for it separately from the product sales.

Lucia Reyes said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 7:01 PM

People if the biz did not work is because you don't work Fortune High tech Marketing works it does what it says how many MLM out can say that very few we are a very good biz we don't get stuck with product like other com that say we are a unfrachise BS all MLM work so work and you will see results nothing is free in life good luck

Mary in Montana said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 6:04 PM

I have been reading these comments for a few days now and finally made a decision today on whether this company is a scam or not. I apperciate all of the views given here both pro and con. I don't see how some of you people function as some of you post morning noon and night, but that is another issue. As for Fhtm in this case actions speak louder than words. I have done a lot of research since this story broke and found out that a lot of good is taking place with money from Fhtm. The owner Mr. Orberson gave 1.6 million to the University of Kentucky, $100,000 to Haiti and countless amounts to many churches. If you do some research you will find that others involved with Fhtm do a lot of good things as well. Actions not words. God Bless.

A rep in ND said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 5:37 PM

To all you FHTM people there in Montana hang in there. Once the Cease and Desist order was lifted here people that were on the fence decided if it's good enough for the Attorney General it's good enough for them. Once the state said everything was good we saw a huge jump in new reps and more and more people showing up at our meetings. Sales have been through the roof as well so don't be discouraged it will get better soon.

Anonymous said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 4:53 PM

While you people bicker back and forth, has anyone taken the time to think about the 1200 people that have lost a source of income while this cease and desist is in affect? I hope some of these people have other ways of bringing in some cash. This will only benefit the state when all is said and done with thier fines and penalties, and in the mean time 1200 of our citizens can't earn any money for several weeks and perhaps longer. The government is the biggest scam of all. Wake up people. Remember these things when you go to the polls in November.

Joe said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 4:43 PM

Love you Montana, What you say is true. Anyone can affiliate themselves with these companies. The problem is you have to continually sell to make a decent income because they only pay out once. With FHTM you get the benefit of all of the others on your team. If you have 250 people in your downline and each sells 10 products or services you are then getting paid residual income on 2500 products and services. How long would it take someone doing that on their own? As John D. Rockefeller once said “I would rather earn 1% off a 100 people's efforts than 100% of my own efforts. This is how the FHTM and MLM business model works.

Love u Montana said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 4:14 PM

Joe, it’s an analysis and a great one at that! What I find interesting on the site is the facts to support his findings on the comparison of FHTM products that basically show anyone can obtain the same products at lesser value and make more in percentage if you go directly to the source as an affiliate. The issue with FHTM reps is they claim to be customer gathers, but your intentions are focused on recruiting….hence Montana cease and desist. What I see, if someone is interested in doing what FHTM has to offer, why not do it as an affiliate. Your business will not be determined by wrong doings of other bad reps. People in Montana while your checks have stopped, you can go to Dish, Peter Lamas, Travelocity, Roadside Autoclub, Ingrid, Simplexity (cell phones), or Linkshare, or whatever you feel like selling and sign up as an affiliate.

Joe said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 12:05 PM

LRC, Care to elaborate? This agency approved FHTM's plan in 2000. The state auditor does not have a clue what she is talking about as she incorrectly described the FHTM business plan. FHTM as a company has not violated Montana law. A few reps may have misrepresented the company, but they are independent contractors not employees. They are the ones the auditor will have to go after not the company.

Joe said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 10:35 AM

John, There are no recruitment bonuses and the residuals do add up. FHTM is not a get rich quick scam. It is a business and it takes time for that business to grow. Sometimes years. The residuals are where the long term substantial income comes into play. This is almost identical to the insurance industry. When an agent sells a policy they receive a huge chunk of commission upfront for aquiring that customer, and then a much smaller commission from then on. It takes time for an agent to build up enough customers before the Agency makes a lot in residual income. No different than FHTM's model. Who do you think the agent's first customers are going to be? Himself, family, and friends. I hope the state auditor doesn't see this because she may go after the insurance companies next!

john54 said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 4:45 AM

think one of those comments went through twice, oh well....you guys get the point..

john54 said on Saturday, Mar 20 at 1:38 AM

And this is also why he wants to link the sales to the recruitment bonus because if the bonus is separate then he knows that will put it into the category of a pyramid scheme. But again the fact is that the recruitment bonus is separate, it is not money coming from the actual sale; FHTM likes to be creative when it comes to that fact by saying that you can’t get the bonus till you make sales (the customer points). In the case I mentioned before, Webster v Omnitrition, the MLM tried to use the same argument, but the court stated “Omnitrition cannot save itself simply by pointing to the fact that it makes some retail sales.” The sales mean nothing if they come from the rep and incoming reps, they need to go to actual customers outside of FHTM. The compensation plan that FHTM has does not go far enough to encourage their reps to sale outside of FHTM; it is simply a device to give the appearance of sales.

Joe said on Friday, Mar 19 at 4:25 PM

Love you Montana, Then the problem lies with the trusted friend or relative not FHTM. FHTM offers a great tool to create a decent income. It's like a hammer, one person my receive a hammer and use it occasionally to hang a picture or remove a nail. Give the same hammer to another person and they may become a carpenter and go on to a lucrative career in carpentry. It's the same tool with too end results. FHTM is no different. It is up to each and every individual on what they can or are willing to do with it.

Anonymous said on Friday, Mar 19 at 4:08 PM

Lindeen can't shut them down because they haven't done anything wrong. The cease and desist order is only temporary and will soon be lifted I'm afraid.

Joe said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:49 PM

Love you Montana, Unfortunately when this order is overturned, there will be no news coverage. Even now very few people even care about this case. Just look at the number of comments on here. Over half are between you, john54, and myself. This just isn't that big of a deal. 99.9% of America will never know about this story. Let me guess you support government health care as well. I personally want less government in my life, and if I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a business opportunity then so be it. It's only a few hundred dollars. What if it does work? As for the people that fell they were scammed, they should have done their homework first. The government is not there to protect us from our own stupidity. It's called live and learn.

Skinnypuppy Alx said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:43 PM

I hate scams!

Love u Montana said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:30 PM

Take a walk Joe! Face it, your scheme got busted for pyramiding in Montana.

Brenda said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:22 PM

I just don't see why our Government has let pyramid schemes go for so long. Pyramid schemes are popping up everywhere and FHTM is just one of many.

Scam Buster said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:14 PM

FHTM shut down? That doesn't surprise me. There was a guy at my work that solicited FHTM so much he was let go. I guess he thought it was more important than his career.

Joe said on Friday, Mar 19 at 3:05 PM

I can assure you they will be back in business very soon.

Looking for a sponsor said on Friday, Mar 19 at 2:43 PM

Hello Mae! Who is your cousin? I am thinking of joining and since you are not on her team (good thing for her and her team)!!! Anyone who would think it is funny that someone has not succeeded is someone that your cousin should feel lucky that you are not working with her!!!

Joe said on Friday, Mar 19 at 10:16 AM

When I say a couple of hours I mean once the hearing takes place. I thought I might need to explain that for some on here.

Casy said on Friday, Mar 19 at 9:55 AM

Over in a few day? LMAO!!!! Trial has yet to begin Joe.

Big Sky Big News said on Friday, Mar 19 at 8:49 AM

Thank you Monica Lindeen for bringing this to public notice. Enough is enough with pyramid schemes.

Joe said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 10:20 PM

Love u Montana, That's not how I was trained, and that's not how my downline is trained. It's about purchasing a few services you need, and then selling these services to others. I know of only one person in my downline that has purchased the travel site and he is using it as an additional business. Then there are others that have all of their customers outside of their household. Not everyone is in a position to buy all of these services. Quite the opposite, most are joining FHTM because they need to generate additional income and therefore go out and sell these products and services.

Anonymous said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 4:12 PM

Chickie, Anyone who believes everything they read or hear from media, government, and the internet without doing their own research is doomed. Educate yourself don't let others do it for you!

Joe said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 4:07 PM

To Love u Montana: OK, if you already have or had Dish then don't buy it. As for the Travel site. That is for people who want to make extra income selling travel to others. Like an on-line travel agency. This would appeal to very few people to begin with and few purchase this option. There are many products that are very useful, and most use them on a daily basis that FHTM offers. What people don't understand is that MLM requires work. You have to get out and sell products and services. If you are not comfortable with sales, then don't get into MLM. I don't need the state auditor to make that decision for me!

Love u Montana said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 3:46 PM

One thing to remember on Dish service provided by FHTM is if you had Dish in the past, it's next to impossible to have it reinstalled at the same address. Many people are not told this until they are already in FHTM and spent the $299. Another reason why people feel mislead and turned them in. Many roadblocks on what FHTM offers. And yes the websites are useless, especially if you can get the same $50 a month web-portal by Travelocity for Free if you go directly through Travelocity. Not many people know this, but guess what, FHTM reps do and it kills them to know you can obtain something without wasting money. Live and learn there is a sucker born every minute, don’t let that be you.

Brittney said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 3:38 PM

OMG…I know several people who use to be involved in FHTM who would sign people up and have them acquire their own customer points, mainly web-services, phone message service or identashield . It’s what generates the quick payout. Cell phones take too long and residual doesn’t start until the fifth month I believe. They was showing me how to work FHTM system to make the most of getting paid fast. They even made up their own sign-up sheet so they can input people and their services into the system, but what they was doing was placing people they thought was productive under a strong downline. That triggered my pyramid radar. I’m sure FHTM P&P was against it, but it didn’t matter. No wonder FHTM is getting nailed.

Love u Montana said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 3:23 PM

Yah whatever…you can sign up a 100 people and not get paid, but the trick is, is get those 100 people to sign up on useless web services and bam you get paid. No END-CONSUMERS Hello Pyramid Scheme. Look at YTB same setup and in serious trouble.

Joe said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 2:35 PM

John, You are making my point, a rep can purchase all but two of the products or services, but many don't purchase any of them. Many sell to others and get all of there customer points. Not everyone can afford to buy all of these services to get qualified. The bonuses are directly tied to product sales. Even when you get qualified you still don't get a bonus. Your sponsor and their upline do! All this does is allows the person who sponsored you as well as their upline to get a bonus on your product sales. And as far as the low commissions once you have a large downline and each person gathers customers it doesn't take long to build a large amount of residual income. It becomes a matter of compounding. Much like if you start with a penny at the first of the month and double it each day by the end of the month you will have over 10 million dollars! That's how the commissions work.

Anonymous said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 2:24 PM

You FHTM reps might like to discount membership and ratings of the BBB as well as membership in the DSA...but many people disagree on this point. Established member organization dedicated to ethics an legal business practices is the key here. Almost all of the major Network Marketing companies are embers of the DSA...that is what they are all about. Certanly those established companies that are legal and ethical ones are members they want the public to see their record. It would seem most of the positive posters are FHTM reps and why wouldn't they defend their own?? But if you are considering this company...do your own diligent resreasch and the BBB and DSA as well as the FTC are good points of reserach. I guess that time will determine whether the established business organizations are right along with the State Auditor

Joe said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 1:58 PM

John, there are no recruitment bonuses! They are customer acquisition bonuses. Companies pay FHTM as much as $200 for each one they send to them. If a rep gets three customers FHTM then gets paid up to $600 by the service providers and in turn passes this on to the reps as bonuses. That being said a rep may decide to purchase some items that they already use susch as cell phone, TV etc. That's just common sense. But a rep is required to have outside sales as well to be qualified or promoted. Many reps run thier business without purchasing a single product from FHTM.

Joe said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 12:11 PM

Can you explain how I am wrong Paul?.

Cheryl Orberson said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 12:03 PM

Please stop picking on my husband. He is a good man even though we went broke after to moving to FLorida in 2000. We had to start this pyramid scheme to pay for my expensive shoe habit.....

paul orberson said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 11:59 AM

There are so many of you that dont understand that you DONT get paid unless you buy my products and services - a website (I make a killing on those fees), MyTel Tag (I again make a killing on those items)

Love u Montana said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 10:25 AM

The investigation started back on July 2, 2009 after receiving multiple complaints by consumers. That is more than enough ample time to conclude to a cease and desist which is pretty serious.

john54 said on Thursday, Mar 18 at 12:06 AM

Also the C&D shows that not only were the local representatives pushing the $299, but in the interview with Jim Miles, with the CEO, Miles stated that a participant had to “pay money” to get involved with FHTM, so it was not just a few local rep’s, it is a common practice with FHTM. As in the Omnitrition case, the courts stated that it is not enough for the MLM to have rules in place that deter pyramiding, the rules must be enforced. In addition FHTM sales are mostly from the representative joining. For instance 3 customer points are required to get the quick start bonus (recruitment bonus), but 2 can be from the representative. Prior cases have found that requiring retail sales, is an ineffective determent to pyramiding, if most of the sales are to participant themselves and not to actual customers outside of the MLM. You are just getting the sales, which often produce a very small commission, so that you can qualify for the real money, the recruitment bonus.

Montana Forester said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 11:47 PM

I wouldn't want to get into the debate on the legal issues here...but all should consider these facts: FHTM is not accredited by the Better Business Bureau and in fact is rated a C- by the BBB.Also even though FHTM has a link to the Direct Selling Assn., they are not members. AND the Obermeyer fellow used to work for EXCEL an mLM that no longer exits...does that tell you anything. There is a lot of rteric here...but the questins is DO REPS MAKE MONEY FROM SIGNUPS? If so..that would subject investigatin from alegal standpoint.

nobody said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 11:35 PM

Everybody take down your advertising/marketing material... computer web pages... the internet itself... your signs and bill boards the lettering on that wall it all a scam a pyrimid scheme all these thing now brought to our attentioun by this wonderful lady that over rides her chain of command. because someone complain. Harvard law the college dedicated it brain power to look at FHTM pyrimid scheme and the IRS will let you pay your taxes and the owner of banks and wealthy men and women take their fortable time to build these thing just for the controversy maybe we should make one for spelling words so we can burn book and chastize things we dont understand

A Connected FHTM RSM/CRT said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 9:20 PM

that should have landed me a "GREAT" position in our country. I will in no way comment on how bad things are in our Country, but I do say that I am one blessed man, regardless. I have all I need except for a "HUGE" School Loan, which at my age may never be able to pay off with a Corporate American salary. That said, I would like to thank Paul Orbeson personally for allowing me the opportunity to pay down my debt that I have acquired in the eight years I went to school. I would also like to say thank you as well for allowing me to feed my family day in and day out. It's easy to neglect to remember how many families are surviving and paying the same bills that we all have due to choice. So John54 I wish you the best as you venture into whatever you may be venturing into. I will not end this with slander towards you and all of the others who seem to think and believe this to be a scam. It certainly is not so!! Once again I wish you John54 all the best. Take Care.

and what about... said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 5:44 PM

The breakaway commission plan...

To Everyone said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 3:53 PM

HAPPY St. Patrick Day....may your day be filled with warmth, health, and peace...

steadfast said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 2:23 PM

FHTM pyramid scheme in trouble, about time! I knew this day would come. Two cease and desist orders in little as a few months. Oops and the latest does not look good for you FHTM con artist.

Joe said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 2:17 PM

John54, You do not have to pay anything to offer FHTM's products and services and you will be compensated under the same pay plan as anyone else. The $299 gets you a website, rep support, a back office that tracks all aspects of your business, training, a subscription to Success magazine and some other things.

john54 said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 2:05 PM

And the income claims are not an element of the alleged violation of the state statute. Paying for the opportunity to receive compensation that is primarily derived from recruitment rather than product sales, is what is at heart here. And of course that is the short version.

Joe said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:47 PM

John54, I guess we will have to wait and see the outcome of the hearing. FHTM does not allow income claims or promises of wealth by FHTM their reps. There is some evidence that certain individuals may have violated not only Montana law but also FHTM's Policies and they should be dealt with accordingly. It is a good thing that these people were brought to light as there needs to be something done about this practice, but to blame an entire organization is not the way to handle this.

Kabet said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:33 PM

Monica Lindeen and KFBB great job!!! A

Hernandez said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:25 PM

Take away the $25 a month FHTM web site fee and the $50 a month on Travelocity website fee and FHTM will have a hard time paying the bonuses. The $50 a month replicated website and one-time activation fee is otherwise (((Free))) as an affiliate directly through Travelocity. I think any simple person can see the Travel deal is bilking reps.

FHTM REP said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:24 PM

To all the FHTM Reps. Please refrain from writting on this blog. It only hurts our business having you argue with others about our business (FHTM). If you can wait until it is all cleared then you can make your comments.

john54 said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:16 PM

A few bad rep's! Who trained those rep's? Who supervised those rep's? Isn't FHTM responsible for that? Pay attention FHTM rep's because if you do what you were trained to do you just might get hung out to dry for FHTM. And the court is the finder of fact, so we will see if it is determined that FHTM has broken the law or not, unless FHTM settles again.

Joe said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:06 PM

John54, I didn't state how the issue was resolved or go into details on how, I just said they were given the green light to do business. Your reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking.

john54 said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:01 PM

Actually FHTM settled the allegations in North Dakota and paid for it's own investigation as part of the settlement. And if you are part of FHTM in any way and stating that FHTM passed an investigation by North Dakota, you are breaking that agreement and jeopardizing FHTM's business in that state as well. Read FHTM's website and the settlement before you post again...

REPLY to MIKE said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 12:52 PM

I am defending it while I run to the bank to cash my check....thanks!

Mike said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 12:43 PM

What does $299 really get you when you sign up as a sales rep...a few DVDs & brochures? They should include the unprofitable replicated web-templates like most other companies in the MLM industry instead of bilking off anyone who ask to get 3 pts when they first sign up as a sales rep. What a sham!

ALL the other 49 STATES are Stupid said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 12:39 PM

Well since Montana "BUSTED" a pyramid scheme they better go tell North Dakota too since they just passed in November that FHTM is "LEGAL". Guess what ND checked first into the company before jumping on the local news..oh yeah, they better go tell Kentucky where the business is ran that it is a scheme, oh how about the other 49 states that it is "Legal". I hope all the other states catch on...(HA, HA)

john54 said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 12:05 PM

That's a shame, you better start looking for plan C. As for being on the computer all day, well I'm not. I have time freedom and I didn't need FHTM to get it! I guess it's the perfect scam when you can get the person you scam to be your biggest supporter.

John54 are you serious continued said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 11:22 AM

The internet has opened up this opportunity to us as we become the middleman of our own bills and those that are in our sphere of influence. It is a wonderful opportunity and I have worked very hard over the past 9-10 months at helping others become successful also. So for a very small investment the potential for great reward is there. I am a small time player in this business but for the last 6 months my FHTM business (plan B) has out preformed my Plan A job. Even this month with it being shortened to 7 days due to the action of the State my business out preformed my Plan A job and it only took 7 days to do it. FHTM also provide for me and my wife a free cruise last month which is something my Plan A job had never provided and never would. But the best part is I get to work with people that are opened minded and excited about tomorrow and not close minded people like John 54 who sits on his computer all day and posts on something he knows nothing about…but he thinks he does!!!

last best place my A@# said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 10:34 AM

only in MT are convicted without so much as a hearing! Throwing aside one of the great things about our country. Innocent until proven guilty ... unless your in Montana!

SawyerJ said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 8:16 AM

Five months of investigation! Monica Lindeen did an excellent job of gathering info before revealing the pyramid scheme. Jackie Boyle, a spokeswoman for the Montana auditor's office said in the Kentucky Herald Paper more and more people are calling in to complain and the complaints are increasing daily about being scammed. Hoorah!

Sugar said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 7:31 AM

No 1300 have not complained, that is the number they say are representatives with FHTM in MT.

john54 said on Wednesday, Mar 17 at 1:21 AM

Oh that is just great! I love it! Are you in Montana Mark? Sounds like you are still promoting your business. And exaggerated income claims, as a lure, to bring people in are part of what got FHTM in trouble. I want FHTM rep’s to keep posting because you are just proving the case and exposing all the misinformation that FHTM puts out there. If you don’t pay the $299.00 then you don’t get any bonuses plain and simple, you can call it training, or entrance fee, or licensing fee, the point is you have to pay it, and that is one of the elements of what defines a pyramid promotional scheme in the Montana statute. Lindeen didn’t need a survey; she could have just started a blog and let all the FHTM rep’s expose the scam with their posts.

MARK said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 11:29 PM

Instead of filing a complaint....why didn't those people show Monica Lindeen the presentation??? I'll bet she would have signed herself up!!! LOL! Some people just don't think the right way! They let fear and intimidation take them over.

Joe said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 10:16 PM

In reference to bicknmorter's comment, a rep from fortune can not purchase all the services from themselves. At least two of the services or products must sold outside the household and not by the representative. Chances are the products they and others do purchase are things they are already using. Also, a rep who recruits an individual receives no compensation for doing so. This whole case is based on misinformation. I for one do not want a state official telling me what I can and can't do with my money. I am looking forward to the outcome of this hearing.

only a matter of time said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 9:34 PM

Yes FHTM will be back in business in Montana and the Auditor will look silly but hopefully FHTM will be able to affect her finacially like her little smear job did to them...

The counter said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by littleroundman What, are you insane, or simply delusional ???? Have you read the complete 34 page .PDF Montana complaint ???? In it you'll find not only details of each allegation, but a clear and concise reference to the corresponding Montana statute AND copies of all relevant correspondence.

raazorX said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 9:07 PM

LOL!! You FHTM people crack me up!! Too funny!! Keep it coming. :-)

Joe said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 8:55 PM

The statement made by State Auditor Monica Lindeen is very misleading. Has anyone posting these comments taken the time to actually read the court order? How can FHTM have stolen 1.8 million dollars from the residents of Montana when 1.3 million went towards the purchase of goods and services that they use everyday such as cell phone service. Also Dish Network, Home security, internet service, and health and beauty aids to name a few. These people would have purchased these services from somewhere else if not from the FHTM reps! The other $500,000.00 was spent by entrepreneurs who saw the opportunity and wanted to start their own business. What's wrong with that? This whole case is ridiculous. Even the math provided in the order by the state clearly shows that a majority of FHTM's revenue comes from the sale of products and services and not in recruiting new reps. Come on people we need better representation than this from our government officials.

Julie said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 8:28 PM

Its funny how the true colors come out with FHTM reps when someone does a write-up that exposes the true nature of their business. They tend to think anyone not like them is broke, lazy and flips burgers.

Montana Native said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 6:37 PM

I personally find it interesting that the owners of the website who at the bottom of the screen appears to KFBB are reporting this unique information are allowing four, count them four different ads on the same website, giving you "secrets to adding 15 reps a week", another one "onlineMLMsecrets"...give me a break it is okay to let the advertisements promoting the company be on the same website that is reporting this company to be a "scam". Which is it, KFBB? Be a proud American make a stand!! And please don't hide behind the first amendment.

1021dl said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 5:07 PM

Someone better tell her to have a talk with Warren Buffet and Donald Trump. They own MLMS and do business in Montana. Wow is she really this misinformed? Gee I wonder if the news station will do a story when this gets cleared up or is it all about trying to mislead the public.

Wow in awe! said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 4:38 PM

and john54 you are and outright liar as well. Not one of those companies if ever contacted would deny doing business with FHTM which leads me to believe that you are the one who initiated the complaint because you didn't make any money sitting on your couch eating chips.

Wow in awe! said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 4:26 PM

john 54 are you that simple minded? do you really believe all of that gibberish your saying? If so then I think your the one who is brainwashed. There is no money for recruiting people in this business. As far as a C.A.B. what that simply means is the companies pay a fee to the FHTM rep for giving them a loyal customer. It comes from the company's advertisement budget not from recruiting people. And as far as you people that say there is no money in it that must mean you work for the government and sit at a desk on your assets, and never do a lick of hard work in your lives. People that are motivated to be more than a peon, and want to work hard for success will do extremely well. Those of you who want to sit back and collect a check go work for the Dictatorship....um excuse me I mean Government. As far as Lindeen is concerned, I hope you are required to make a televised apology and admit you were wrong when FHTM is allowed to do business in this state. And they will be.

Baker said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 3:04 PM

Monica Lindeen is my hero for exposing this scam. I only wish it would of happened sooner. FHTM reps lied for too long on what they make to lure people in, it's about time some numbers are exposed.

Joe Black said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 2:21 PM

A pyramid scheme is a non-sustainable business model that involves the exchange of money primarily for enrolling other people into the scheme, without any product or service being delivered. Pyramid schemes are a form of fraud. FHTM can't be the above because the only way you get paid in this pay plan is if you gather customers, products and services, from major companies that we market for.Ex: Cell phone from Verizon, Dish TV, Identashield, Travelocity Travel Portal. All products of services that our team members utilize to facilitate in our business. Traditional advertising isn't as effective as it used to be and we utilize word of mouth advertising. So if i can't get paid until i gather customers from these large companies how are we a pyramid. I bet if you look at your current place of employment, you would see a big pyramid and i bet your not at the top making all the money. If you are, good for you becuase you put in the hard work and effort to build a business.

Red Flag said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 2:13 PM

I love you Montana for exposing the truth!

john54 said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 1:53 PM

Montana state law defines what a pyramid scheme is and it doesn't matter if you have a product. All that matters is that you pay for the right to recriut others and then primarily make your money from the recriutment of others and not product sales. You guys bought everything FHTM told you, try reading the law before you speak. Lindeen is on solid legal ground

MARK said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 1:42 PM

Our own government can't keep companies in the states and now they are trying to stop FHTM from bringing these companies revenue. Many people are on unemployment because our government can't give many people these so called securities. We trade customers for pay in this market. We are advertising! We have a choice as individuals to better life for ourselves and that is what we must do. With FHTM we can help others do the same. This is a wonderful group of people who want to help everyone succeed in life that are willing to work and listen. There are all sorts of pyramids including our own government. In case some people are unaware, there is legal and illegal pyramids. Illegal pyramids funnel money and offer no products or services. There are many products and services offered through FHTM. FHTM supports many families and we should be greatful.

U said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 1:28 PM

Dear Lindeen, You should be embarrassed. You have made yourself and the great state of Montana look completely ignorant. If anything is a scam, it is what you're doing to this company. Prepare yourself to feel like a total moron when and if you get your facts straight. Oh and by the way, good luck in the next election…I know I won’t be voting for you. Sincerely, A Concerned Citizen

Sugar said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 12:41 PM

If this is a scam then Amway/Quixtar is also, and how old is this company. What about efusjon energy drinks that only offers a couple of products and wants you to sign up people. Come on people it is like any thing, you must work at it to make money. If you have a job do you think your employer will pay you to just sit there. NO!!!

NOT A SCAM said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 9:33 AM

It is like any other business you have to get customers into your store to buy the product. Mr. Oberson worked for Excel first and then began FHTM. He went to these businesses and said instead of advertising and spending money that way why not if I bring you customers you pay them to bring you customers...WOW. How simple, but it isn't quick pay...you have to WORK, unlike many don't like to do!!

john smith said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 7:49 AM

wow / actually find sorta funny .. that she is willing to open her mouth that far . now she has to do her work and fight the fight. which n all will find FHTM to be doing great things not only n her state but other areas as well. And yes i do agree that we dont need scheme and scams going in and out of any state. people r going through enough troubles .. so encourage that if u r going to pick upon this one company that is doing great things.. then go ahead and continue the fight against scams.

john54 said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 1:08 AM

Also FHTM representatives are encouraged to sign up for their own services, which in the MLM industry is called inventory loading. You are indeed paying to be your own customer so that you can get the points to earn the recruitment bonus. Again it’s all about recruitment. It’s a scam, the top 1% of representatives make the money and the rest are brainwashed to try to achieve what they make and told they are lazy when they quit or that they didn’t work hard enough.

Really John54 said on Tuesday, Mar 16 at 12:39 AM

Really John54 the 54 must stand for your IQ since you speak about something you know nothing about because from what I can see FHTM doesn't pay anything for recruiting but is does provide nice customer acquisition bonus… And I am sure you know nothing about that!

john54 said on Monday, Mar 15 at 11:37 PM

You guys are all brainwashed! It’s a pyramid scheme! It’s about time someone did something about this company. A pyramid scheme is one in which the participant pays for the right to recruit others and makes their money primarily from the income from recruiting and not the products they are selling. You all bought the line FHTM sold that said a pyramid scheme doesn’t have a product and that is not true. Open your eyes and accept that you have been scammed and sold a bill of goods that never existed! Wake up! If you are a FHTM rep you know that the only way you make any real money is off the bonuses from recruiting and that is illegal! The vast majority of people lose money.

Lose Money? said on Monday, Mar 15 at 11:07 PM

Are you kidding? Anyone that has put effort and time into this business will bring revenue to the state. It's no wonder we are 10 years behind everyone else. Change will happen with or without you.Get on the bus or get out of the way.

ESM said on Monday, Mar 15 at 10:35 PM

I do not choose to be a common man, It is my right to be uncommon ... if I can, I seek opportunity ... not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen. Humbled and dulled by having the State look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; To dream and to build. To fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole; I prefer the challenges of life To the guaranteed existence; The thrill of fulfillment To the stale calm of Utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence Nor my dignity for a handout I will never cower before any master Nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect. Proud and unafraid; To think and act for myself, To enjoy the benefit of my creations And to face the world boldly and say: This, with God's help, I have done All this is what it means To be an Entrepreneur.

Joe Black said on Monday, Mar 15 at 9:52 PM

FHTM is 100% legal and if you don't believe me, check the Better Business Bureau. The company represents itself in all 50 states, Canada, Puerto Rico, and the United Kingdom. . I guess montana is the only state that caught on to the scam! Get your facts straight before you make decisions lady....I can't believe how our local government is representing themselves.

scam said on Monday, Mar 15 at 9:26 PM

FTHM is a pyramid scheme and a complete scam! It's laughable...wake up, morons!

Mm2010 said on Monday, Mar 15 at 8:14 PM

Are you kidding!?!? Stole!?!?? Come on! I hope fortune hi-tech sues the state of Montana for slanderous accusastions!!! This is completely irate and made-up...a fabrication!! Fortune follows the guidelines that each state sets forth. I'm sure the matter will be resolved swiftly and those Montana residents can resume business. Find someone else to pick on Lindeen!